The going rates for sugar dating on PCMAX are generally 5,000-10,000 yen for a first meeting, 5,000-15,000 yen for a meal, 20,000-30,000 yen for intimate encounters, and 15,000-25,000 yen for a one-time encounter. Monthly contracts are practically non-existent.
Actually, this amount is about 5% cheaper on average compared to apps specifically for sugar dating.
私たちUNIVERSE GROUPが運営するPATOLOの独自調査では、専用アプリの食事相場は1〜3万円、大人は5〜10万円というデータが出ています。
Source:PATOLO相場ガイド
I often hear from people around me that they registered for PCMAX thinking, "It's free to start, so I'll give it a try," but were surprised to find that the going rate was lower than they expected when they actually started negotiating.
If you're going to spend the same amount of time, it's more efficient to work in a location with better conditions, right?
In this article, I will explain in detail, using my own data and experience, the actual market conditions on PCMAX, the structural reasons why it's cheaper than dedicated apps, and the next steps you should take if you want to consistently earn 10 to 30 yen per month.
PCMAXの相場が妥当かどうかは、専用アプリの水準と並べると見えてきます。A list comparing major apps based on various criteria.を先に押さえておくと判断しやすくなります。
Airi
Hi everyone! I'm Airi, 28 years old, and I've been involved in "sugar dating" for 5 years. I've met about 25 different men and earned a total of 400 million yen. Currently, I earn an average of 10 to 15 yen per month, and I share my experiences and insights about sugar dating.
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PCMAX's list of typical sugar daddy/sugar baby rates [meeting, meals, adult, one-time]
The going rate for sugar dating on PCMAX varies greatly depending on the type of date.
First, I will give you an overview of the whole picture.
| Date content | PCMAX market price | Typical rates for sugar daddy dating apps (for reference) |
|---|---|---|
| Meeting (for tea) | 5,000-10,000 yen | 10,000-15,000 yen |
| Dinner date | 5,000-15,000 yen | 10,000-30,000 yen |
| adult relationship | 20,000-30,000 yen | 50,000-100,000 yen |
| division | 15,000-25,000 yen | (Almost never available) |
| Monthly contract | Almost none | 100,000-300,000 yen |
Looking at it this way, a notable feature of PCMAX is that its prices are about half of those of dedicated apps.
Let's take a closer look at the breakdown of each, along with my own experience.
Typical cost for a formal meeting (over tea): 5,000 to 10,000 yen
The going rate for meeting someone in person on PCMAX is generally between 5,000 and 10,000 yen.
The median price is roughly 5,000 yen, which is a modest level compared to the market price for dedicated apps (10,000 to 15,000 yen).
Airi
When I tried meeting someone through PCMAX in the past, the cost was almost always around 5,000 yen, including the cost of tea.
Some people have the attitude of "Since it's our first meeting, I'll just treat you to a meal," and there are cases where no payment is made.
The initial meeting itself is at a cafe and lasts about 30 minutes to an hour, so when you calculate it by the hour, it's not too bad.
However, whether this leads to a regular relationship is another matter.
be familiar withRegarding the flow and cost of the first meeting:An experienced person explains it in another article, so reading that as well will help you avoid any confusion about the arrangements on the day.
Typical cost for a dinner date: 5,000 to 15,000 yen
For dinner dates, the going rate rises to between 5,000 and 15,000 yen.
However, even this is only about half the price of a typical meal on the dedicated app (1 to 3 yen).
The primary goal of male users on PCMAX is "casual encounters," and they tend to have little intention of "supporting women through sugar dating."
Therefore, it's not uncommon for them to pay for meals and then give you a 5,000 yen allowance.
In the sense that you get an allowance that includes the cost of meals,An article about the reality and going rates of "sugar dating," where one earns money solely through meals.As explained in detail elsewhere, if you complete multiple jobs, you can earn tens of thousands of yen per month.
However, if you're aiming for a stable income, it's more efficient to consider other options as well.
The going rate for adult relationships: 20,000 to 30,000 yen
When it comes to adult relationships, the going rate on PCMAX is generally between 20,000 and 30,000 yen.
This price range is commonly referred to as "2" in the industry, and it represents the core of the adult market price on PCMAX.
On the other hand, the going rate for adult dates on apps specifically for sugar dating is mainly between 50,000 and 100,000 yen. In reality, even for the same type of date, there can be a 3 to 5 times difference in price.
Airi
I know someone who had an experience with adult relationships through PCMAX, but she said that she felt the pay was lower than she expected and that the risks weren't worth it, so she quickly switched to a dedicated app.
If you are considering a relationship that involves adults, the going rate isThe going rate and mindset when choosing a relationship involving adultery in "sugar dating"We recommend that you understand this beforehand before making a decision.
The going rate for a one-time encounter (with an adult): 15,000 to 25,000 yen
PCMAX has a relatively large number of users looking for casual encounters, and the going rate is between 15,000 and 25,000 yen.
Since this is a one-time encounter with an adult and not a relationship intended to continue, the going rate tends to be set a little lower than that of a typical adult.
However, when the goal is a casual encounter, the man's negotiation stance tends to be more aggressive, and he often specifies a price upfront, such as "2 yen."
Both in terms of safety and requirements, it's more difficult than using a dedicated app, so I honestly wouldn't recommend it for beginners.
Airi
Please note that casual sexual encounters may violate the Prostitution Prevention Law, so a thorough understanding and careful judgment are necessary.
Monthly contract rates: practically non-existent
You should assume that it's extremely rare to find someone on PCMAX with a monthly contract of 10 to 30 yen.
This is because, due to the nature of dating apps, users are less likely to have the idea of "continuous support."
In the world of these dedicated apps, there is a certain number of men known as "sugar daddies" who provide stable support with monthly allowances of 10 to 30 yen.
If you're aiming for a stable income, it's more efficient to start by working in places where wealthy sugar daddies gather.
Incidentally, there is a relationship similar to a monthly contract called a "mistress contract," but the difference between this and "sugar dating" is explained in detail in a separate article.
If you are interestedA clear explanation of the difference between a mistress contract and sugar dating.Please also read:
Three structural reasons why the going rate for sugar dating on PCMAX is cheaper than on dedicated apps [Based on our own comparison data]
The fact that PCMAX's prices are lower than those of its dedicated app is not a coincidence; there are three structural reasons for this.
A large-scale word-of-mouth survey conducted by UNIVERSE GROUP, involving 38,000 men and women, revealed that dating sites and dedicated dating apps have fundamentally different user bases and operational policies.
Source:PATOLO: Recommended Sugar Daddy App | Survey of 38,000 People
Reason ① It's a dating site, so it's difficult to attract high-income daddies.
PCMAX is primarily a service designed for "casual dating and matching."
Therefore, the user base mainly consists of ordinary men in their 20s to 40s, and it is not a place where so-called "sugar daddies" with an annual income of over 2,000 million yen are concentrated.
For reference, 6% of PATOLO's male members have an annual income of 2,000 million yen or more.
This is because the system of strict screening ultimately attracts high-income individuals.
While PCMAX has low registration barriers, making it accessible to anyone, the proportion of men with the financial means to pay allowances is lower.
The reason why prices are low is simply because there are few people who can afford it, which is a supply-side issue.
Reason ② The presence of both professional escorts and women seeking compensated dating lowers the going rate.
Among the women using PCMAX for sugar dating, there is a certain number who are either attracting customers for sex work or engaging in compensated dating for financial gain.
This is a common problem with dating apps in general, and the reality is that even the operators haven't been able to completely eliminate it.
When businesses and women involved in compensated dating enter the market, men negotiate based on the premise that they can also "buy amateur women at low prices."
Airi
In fact, an acquaintance of mine who was active on PCMAX was offered "2 yen with sex" on their first meeting. This is less like sugar dating and more like a negotiation based on the going rate for compensated dating.
For women who genuinely want to engage in "sugar dating," this kind of environment puts them at a disadvantage when negotiating terms.
The fact that deals like "meals only for 5,000 yen" are becoming commonplace is due to the very structure of the market.
Reason #3: Because sugar dating is officially prohibited, it's not possible to negotiate on a large scale.
PCMAX's terms of service explicitly prohibit compensated dating and encounters involving the exchange of money.
Source:PCMAX Official
Therefore, both the woman and the man risk having their accounts frozen if they use terms like "allowance" or "sugar daddy."
As a result, they are unable to openly negotiate compensation, resort to using coded language, or avoid discussing the amount at all in the initial contact.
Naturally, for the woman, this puts her in a situation where she "won't know the terms until she meets him," making it difficult for her to take the lead in negotiations.
Airi
The dedicated app has a system in place that allows you to specify the amount of compensation and the type of relationship in advance, so the conditions can be agreed upon at the first meeting.
This difference ultimately manifests as a difference in the amount paid per case.
PCMAX Pricing System | Points for Men, Free for Women
PCMAX's pricing system is a two-tiered structure: completely free for women, and a point system for men.
Understanding the male pricing structure will give you insight into "how much your partner is spending," making it easier to get a feel for negotiation.
Women can use it completely free of charge.
PCMAX offers all features to female members for free.
Specifically, registration, profile creation, message sending, photo sending, and even phone calls are all completely free.
Therefore, the barrier to "just giving it a try" is low, and it's certainly easy to try.
However, because it's free and anyone can start using it, there tend to be more female users, which in turn increases the competition for matching per person.
For men, 1 point equals 10 yen.
Male members use a point system where 1 point equals 10 yen. The points consumed for the main functions are as follows:
- Sending a message: 5 points (50 yen)
- Viewing profile picture: 5 points (50 yen)
- Viewing posts on the bulletin board: 5 points (50 yen)
Since it's a pay-per-use system rather than a monthly subscription, the more messages a man sends, the higher his monthly cost will be.
The average monthly usage fee for men is between 5,000 and 15,000 yen.
The average monthly usage fee for men using PCMAX is roughly between 5,000 and 15,000 yen.
Even men who actively send messages will likely spend around 15,000 yen per month, and the amount they can pay women as compensation will be determined based on this figure.
For reference, male members of apps specifically for "sugar daddy" relationships typically pay around 20,000 to 30,000 yen per month in membership fees alone.
Furthermore, if the system requires a full screening process, there will be additional membership fees and annual fees. A man who can afford to pay 3 yen a month for an app will have a completely different sense of what he can afford to pay as an allowance compared to a man who only spends 1 yen a month on an app.
Airi
It's not that men on PCMAX have low financial ability; rather, they often "don't have a budget specifically for sugar dating." That's why the going rate for compensation tends to be low and stable, which is a natural consequence given the structure of the fee system.
Now that you understand the pricing structure, next I'll tell you about the three major risks you absolutely must know when using PCMAX for sugar dating, and tips for spotting scammers.
The 3 Biggest Risks of Sugar Dating on PCMAX and 5 Tips for Spotting Scammers
When engaging in sugar dating on PCMAX, the risk involved is something you should be more concerned about than the low going rate.
Airi
I myself have had an experience where I almost encountered a dangerous situation when using PCMAX.
Here, we'll explain three major risks and provide checkpoints to help you spot a reputable company in just one minute.
Risk ① The presence of businesses (attracting customers to sex establishments and hostess clubs)
Among the female members of PCMAX, there are a certain number of businesses that operate with the purpose of attracting customers to sex establishments and hostess clubs.
A typical pattern is that they initially act like a normal woman, but after switching to LINE, they ask for restaurant reservations.
If a man encounters these kinds of scammers several times, he will start to approach them with the understanding that "you'll lose out if you're not careful with the women on PCMAX."
As a result, an atmosphere is created where even genuine women involved in "sugar dating" are undervalued and taken advantage of.
Risk ② Men who are only interested in compensated dating or sex.
While it may superficially be called "sugar dating," in reality, there are a certain number of men who coerce women into compensated dating or encounters solely for sexual purposes.
Due to the nature of PCMAX as a dating site, it provides an environment where men like these can freely register.
Airi
An acquaintance of mine told me about an experience on PCMAX where, despite only agreeing to a "meal only," they were repeatedly invited to a hotel on the day of the date, which caused them a lot of trouble.
Unlike dedicated apps, PCMAX doesn't clearly state the conditions beforehand, which means that problems often arise where the conditions change on the day of use.
If you encounter such a situation, it's important to go home immediately and report it to the administrators using the app's reporting function.
Risk ③ Account suspension due to violation of terms of service
PCMAX's terms of service explicitly prohibit compensated dating and encounters involving the exchange of money.
If you explicitly state "compensation," "sugar dating," or "seeking sugar daddy" in your profile or messages, you risk being flagged by the platform's monitoring and having your account frozen.
When an account is frozen, all past interactions and accumulated message history are deleted, which is a significant loss for the woman.
Considering the effort involved in using different coded language for each type of activity, it's more efficient to choose a platform that explicitly allows sugar dating from the start.
5 checkpoints to spot a scammer or a problematic sugar daddy in 1 minute
If you're going to use PCMAX, the ability to discern whether the other party is a scammer or a potential problem is essential.
The five checkpoints I actually use are listed below.
- The profile picture is excessively edited.
- The self-introduction is too short or sounds like a canned response.
- They immediately ask to switch to LINE after matching.
- They bring up topics like "shop recommendations," "side hustles," and "investments."
- They demand that an adult be present from the very beginning of the first meeting.
If any of these conditions apply, I will immediately block the user.
In particular, offers that combine "immediate LINE migration" and "store introduction" are highly likely to be from a scammer.
While using these five checkpoints can help you avoid unscrupulous contractors, performing these checks every time is time-consuming and requires considerable effort.
How to choose a sugar daddy dating app that offers higher pay and safer earning potential than PCMAX
PCMAXのリスクを回避しつつ、効率的に稼ぎたいなら、パパ活専用アプリへの移行が現実的な選択肢になります。ただし、専用アプリも数十種類あるので、選ぶ基準を持っておくことが大切です。
基準がわかったら、それを満たすサービスが実際にどう評価されているかも見ておくと安心です。1,470人の調査で見えた利用者の評価で、良い面と不満点の両方を確認できます。
Airi
Based on my experience using multiple apps, I'll share three essential criteria you should check.
Selection Criteria ① | Screening System for Male Members
The most important aspect is the screening system for male members.
Ideally, you should choose an app with a strict screening process that includes interviews and income verification, where the operators are aware of the men's backgrounds.
While apps with lax screening processes allow anyone to register, they also increase the risk of attracting businesses and men seeking compensated dating.
On the other hand, apps with strict screening processes tend to attract financially secure men who are serious about engaging in "sugar dating," because the barrier to entry is high.
Selection Criteria ② | Strictness of Income Verification and Identity Verification
The next thing to check is whether submitting income verification documents and identity verification documents is mandatory.
Apps that require the submission of withholding tax statements or tax return documents will have stricter screening processes for men.
Even if someone writes "annual income of 2,000 million yen" or "company owner" in their profile, without supporting documents, it's just self-declaration.
There's a huge difference in negotiation power regarding compensation between men who have been verified and those who haven't.
Selection Criteria ③ | Message Monitoring and Reporting System by the Management Team
Finally, you should check whether the platform has a system in place for monitoring and reporting messages.
Specifically, we will check whether the following three points are in place: 24-hour manned monitoring, a system for immediately freezing accounts of violators, and a support desk for when problems occur.
Apps with inadequate monitoring systems will continue to attract unscrupulous vendors and troublemakers indefinitely.
Conversely, in apps that are well-monitored, women can feel more at ease and focus on exchanging messages.
Having a point of contact to consult with management when problems arise is also an important point for long-term operation.
Who should and shouldn't use PCMAX?
Based on what we've discussed so far, let's summarize who should and shouldn't use PCMAX.
Airi
Based on my experience, I will clearly explain the criteria for making decisions.
| Who should use PCMAX? | People who should not use PCMAX |
|---|---|
| - Primarily for the purpose of making a quick decision A monthly allowance of a few tens of thousands of yen is sufficient. - You can thoroughly check the risks of the other party yourself. I'd like to try sugar dating as a side activity while looking for a romantic partner or just for fun. | I am aiming for a stable income of 10 yen or more per month. ・Seeking a long-term relationship with a wealthy sugar daddy I want to position "sugar dating" as supplementary income to my main job. I want to avoid dealing with vendors and the risk of violating terms and conditions. |
The path you should take will depend on which category you fall into.
Top 3 Recommended Apps for "Sugar Daddy" Dating [PATOLO, SugarDaddy, Payters]
From here, we will introduce the three major apps specifically for sugar dating.
Each club has different membership demographics, fee structures, and features, so please choose one that suits your own goals and activity style.
PATOLO | A sugar daddy app with a strict screening process where 2,000% of users earn over 6 million yen annually.
PATOLO is a sugar daddy dating app with a strict screening process, where 6% of male members have an annual income of 2,000 million yen or more.
The system is designed so that only men who pass an interview-based screening process can become members, and it tends to attract a large number of wealthy sugar daddies.
A distinctive feature is the system in place that allows users to confirm the amount of compensation and the type of relationship beforehand.
Unlike PCMAX, where you need to "negotiate terms after meeting," this platform has a structure that minimizes the likelihood of problems because both parties agree on the terms at the initial meeting stage.
In addition, we have systems in place to ensure that women can participate with peace of mind, including full reimbursement of travel expenses for face-to-face meetings, confidentiality agreements with male members, and chat monitoring by the management.
This app is suitable for those aiming for a stable monthly income of 10 to 30 yen, or those who desire a long-term relationship with a wealthy sugar daddy.
SugarDaddy | Industry leader with a large number of members and a high matching rate
SugarDaddy is a well-established and leading service in the sugar daddy dating app industry.
Its greatest strength is its large number of members, and it tends to have a high matching rate even for people living in rural areas.
For men, there is a system in place for verifying annual income and identity, and a certain level of screening is conducted.
The system is designed so that only men are charged a monthly fee; women can generally use the service for free.
This app is suitable for beginners who want to try out a sugar daddy dating app, or for those whose activity area is outside of Tokyo or Osaka.
Due to its large membership, it doesn't have the same density of wealthy sugar daddies as PATOLO, but it's a viable option for those who want to increase their chances of finding a match.
Payters | Prioritizing safety with its unique verification badge and female-led screening process.
Paters is a sugar daddy app that employs its own unique identity verification and income verification badge system.
A man's status is displayed as a badge on his profile, making it easy to visually assess his trustworthiness.
A distinctive feature is that there is also a screening process for the women.
Because only women who have passed a certain screening process can use the service, male users tend to be more satisfied, and as a result, communication after matching tends to be smoother.
This app is popular among women in their late 20s to 30s and is suitable for those who want to secure a decent number of members while prioritizing safety.
While it doesn't have the same high density of wealthy sugar daddies as PATOLO, its unique badge system provides a sense of security that has garnered it support.
Top 3 Sugar Daddy Dating Apps vs. PCMAX: Price Comparison Chart
Let's compare the three apps introduced so far, along with PCMAX, based on market rates.
| Date content | PATOLO | sugar daddy | Paters | PCMAX |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Meet in Person | 10,000-15,000 yen | 5,000-10,000 yen | 5,000-10,000 yen | 5,000-10,000 yen |
| Dinner date | 10,000-30,000 yen | 10,000-20,000 yen | 10,000-20,000 yen | 5,000-15,000 yen |
| adult relationship | 50,000-100,000 yen | 30,000-50,000 yen | 30,000-50,000 yen | 20,000-30,000 yen |
| Monthly contract | 100,000-300,000 yen | 50,000-200,000 yen | 50,000-150,000 yen | Almost none |
*PATOLO figures are based on initial survey data, while SugarDaddy, Payters, and PCMAX figures are estimated values based on official information and user reviews.
A comparison table shows that the rates for the three dedicated apps are clearly higher than PCMAX, and PATOLO's rates for adult monthly contracts are particularly outstanding.
This is because PATOLO's strict screening process is designed to attract wealthy sugar daddies.
For an overview of the overall trends including the three companies and a detailed evaluation of each app, see below.A survey of 38,000 people reveals the real evaluations of sugar daddy dating apps.We have summarized the details in.
FAQ
From here, we will answer some of the most frequently asked questions from our readers regarding PCMAX market prices.
Here's a summary of any questions that weren't fully addressed in the main text.
Which is more profitable: PCMAX or a sugar daddy dating app?
When comparing monthly income, PCMAX averages 5 yen, while the sugar daddy dating app (PATOLO) averages 15 to 30 yen, a difference of 3 to 6 times.
There are three structural reasons why differences arise.
- In terms of the income bracket of male members, 6% of PATOLO members have an annual income of over 2,000 million yen.
- Depending on whether prior conditions are set, the dedicated app allows you to determine the payment at the first meeting.
- The difference in the density of wealthy sugar daddies means that the number of men willing to enter into monthly contracts is orders of magnitude greater.
For those who want to earn money efficiently, choosing a dedicated app from the start will minimize wasted time and energy.
What is the average amount of money earned from "sugar dating"?
パパ活全体の平均額は、デート内容によって異なります。一般的な目安は、顔合わせ5,000〜10,000円・食事デート1〜3万円・大人の関係5〜10万円です。
However, this is the average for apps specifically for sugar dating; on dating apps (such as PCMAX), the price drops to about half that.
There are differences depending on the area; in central Tokyo, the average tends to be higher than average, while in rural areas, it tends to be lower than average.
What's the best app for sugar dating?
Rather than a clear "number one," the reality is that the optimal solution varies depending on the objective.
Choosing an app that meets three criteria—a rigorous screening process, income verification, and message monitoring by the management—will allow you to achieve both safety and high earnings.
PATOLO is the only product that meets all three of those conditions.
Sixty percent of our male members have an annual income of over 20 million yen, and we employ a strict screening process that includes interviews.
For those aiming for a stable monthly income of 10 to 30 yen, this is the most efficient option.
How much can you earn in a day from sugar dating?
Daily earnings vary greatly depending on the number and type of items you plan to bring in.
A typical estimate is 5,000 to 10,000 yen for one initial meeting and 10,000 to 30,000 yen for one dinner date.
Those who are good at scheduling can sometimes earn 30,000 to 50,000 yen by scheduling multiple meetings in a single day.
However, trying to cram too many tasks into one day can be physically and mentally exhausting, so it's more realistic to start with a pace of one or two tasks per day.
Is it really free for women to use PCMAX?
Yes, PCMAX offers all features completely free for female members. Registration, messaging, photo sharing, and even phone calls are all free.
The fact that you can start for free is a big advantage, but it also means that the competition for matching is higher, so it's recommended to understand the pros and cons before using it.
Summary | The reality of PCMAX market prices and what to do next
The going rates for sugar dating on PCMAX are 5,000-10,000 yen for a first meeting, 5,000-15,000 yen for a meal, 20,000-30,000 yen for intimate encounters, and 15,000-25,000 yen for a one-time encounter. Monthly contracts are almost non-existent.
This is about half the price compared to apps specifically for sugar dating.
- Because it's a dating site, it's difficult to attract high-income daddies.
- The area is a mix of businesses and women seeking compensated dating.
- Because sugar dating is officially prohibited, it's not possible to negotiate on a large scale.
This is because these three structural factors are overlapping.
In terms of risks, there are three major risks: the inclusion of scammers, men seeking compensated dating, and account suspension due to violations of the terms of service. Checking for scammers each time requires considerable effort.
For those seeking a stable income of over 10 yen per month or a long-term relationship with a wealthy sugar daddy, a sugar dating app with a strict screening process is overwhelmingly more efficient.
In particular, PATOLO has a system in place where 6% of its male members have an annual income of over 2,000 million yen, and you can check the allowance and relationship type in advance.
If you shift your mindset from "I'll spend time looking for the cheapest options" to "I'll start by going to places where wealthy sugar daddies gather," you can achieve vastly different results with the same amount of effort.
安全に・高単価で稼ぐ第一歩として、完全審査制PATOLOへの登録を検討してみてはいかがでしょうか。
